vegans who refuse to even eat backyard eggs….why
people who think its unethical to eat chicken eggs are like people who think bees should keep all their honey. they literally produce more than they need and your unwillingness to even buy local means you are doing nothing to help them, support your small farmers you heathens
I don’t usually get involved in vegan discourse but as far as honey goes they stress the hive into overproduction and regularly kill off the worker bees to get the queen to produce more. The bees they use to pollinate are trucked out to crops, they’re not the same ones producing honey. The egg thing is about how much stress it puts on chickens to produce, people who keep pet chickens usually have vets implant artificial eggs into the chicken so it’s not putting so much stress on the chicken’s body. That being said I eat honey. I don’t think we should go after people trying to prevent cruelty, we should look harder at mass farming practices and stop pointing fingers at each other.
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OK, but do all local beekeepers stress their bees into overproduction? I understand if this is the mass production method, but is it also the backyard beekeeper method?
….that is literally not how it works at all.
You can’t ‘stress bees into overproduction’. If bees are stressed, they won’t produce. And will probably die, tbh. Or at least get sick far more easily, and then die.
The only way you get excess honey from bees is if you keep them somewhere where they’re happy and have lots of forage. Some commercial beekeepers will take the honey and feed back sugar water, which is unethical and no, backyard beekeepers like myself don’t do that.
But you literally cannot stress bees into overproduction. Bees just. Like. They don’t have an ‘off’ switch. They gather nectar and pollen and bring it back to the hive. That’s what they do. They don’t take days off or vacations. They forage every day until they die. That’s hardwired into their behavior by millions of years of evolution. I’m not out there yelling at them to get up and get at it; they start foraging at first light and continue until dusk, every day. That’s what they do. That’s what evolution has coded into their genes and behavior.
So they will forage and store honey and pollen forever, so long as they have forage. They don’t reach a point where they go ‘oh hey we have enough to survive the winter, we can stop now.’ They just keep going.
What stresses bees is not being able to forage or not having enough forage. And that hardly leads to them making honey. The opposite, rather; they then have to survive off their stored reserves.
“The egg thing is about how much stress it puts on chickens to produce, people who keep pet chickens usually have vets implant artificial eggs into the chicken so it’s not putting so much stress on the chicken’s body.” – itsursoyboye
Chickens naturally produce eggs while they are fertile. If you implanted an artificial egg into a chicken you’d hurt it. They also don’t really have an off switch, the only time a hen doesn’t lay is when she doesn’t have everything she needs to produce the egg.
As for artificial eggs…you may see people giving chickens ceramic eggs, or something similarly shaped but that is only if a chicken is feeling like she wants to be a mom and you don’t want more chickens.
Ceramic and rubber eggs are also used when you have some
arseholeschickens that have realised eggs are delicious to eat too. Making sure you collect eggs early and leave inedible bouncy/hard eggs in the nest usually teaches them not to bother…
*yet another massive sigh re: original post*
Y’all, I try to be loving and accepting of everybody and I also try to keep this blog relatively free of swearing because *handwaves* professional *more handwaves* is generally a good thing to do with diverse audience, etc.
But I’ve spoken on this general topic before and I’m going to do it again.
What the fuck gives you the right to (1) put words in my mouth (2) decide what I should/should not do with my body?
I love small farmers and I support them. I love my friends who raise backyard chickens (and I love the chickens). I have no ethical issues with eating eggs from said chickens.
But I’m not going to do it. And my reasons for doing so are none of anybody’s goddamn business.
If you weren’t around for previous rants, I eat honey, I wear leather and wool, I feed my cats meat, and all those jerkoffs going on non-sequitor pseudo-intellectual holier-than-thou monologues about synthetic fabrics and how vegans are destroying the environment via polyester need to stfu because (newsflash), almost all your clothes are synthetic blends.
I GET that it’s still acceptable to shit on vegans because of the obnoxious asswipes that call themselves vegan and police everybody else’s behavior (for the record, the peta assholes are not vegan and everybody hates them).
But remember some of those vegans you’re shitting on have been getting mercilessly bullied for what they personally chose not to eat starting 25 years ago, despite their best attempts to keep their dietary habits a secret because it’s not fun to have meat thrown at you in school when you’re a little kid with panic attacks and OCD-esque contamination issues when you touch meat 👍.
All I want to do is share my love of nature and science and bugs (INCLUDING THOSE COOL BUG SNACKS AT THAT ASIAN GROCERY, REMEMBER THOSE?????? DO YOU THINK THEY WERE VEGAN????), but wtf peeps I can’t even come to this blue hellsite without getting told that I feel a certain way and getting criticized for it??? Not cool, do better.
Vegans are not some theoretical enemy that exist off of this platform. I’m right here, I see these posts, I have had to unfollow people I would otherwise really like to stay connected to because of the rabid anti-vegan sentiment (why???), and … all of these posts, which are literally about me … are wrong.
Anyways, that’s my rant for now, I guess I should get back to posting bugs or something.
Me in 2013 attempting to liberate some backyard chickens kept under cruelly inhumane conditions, the horror
May 18, 2019